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#1 Lilacmom

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 10:54 AM

Have you ever crossed the path of one?

I was sitting at the corner of Ouellette & Eugene(on Eugene) at a light. A funeral procession was going through on my green light. A car comes up behind me and hits the horn for me to go. I look in my rear view mirror to motion to this lady, i can't due to the funeral. She swerves out from behind me and speeds through the intersection almost hitting a car from the procession. That car stopped and let her through. In all my years of driving i have never seen someone do this. How rude and disrespectful!!!. The driver of the car sitting to my right shock his head too.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 11:13 AM

Never ever! Two things I wont cross or pass, funeral procession and a picket line. I will pull over to the side if a funeral procession is coming towards me.

Chick mustve been in a major hurry, how rude!

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 11:30 AM

I always stop. Heck a few minutes out of respect is nothing.

I am shocked by these types of stories and can't figure out why people think their lives and time is so much more important than thosepeople who are trying to say good bye to a love one

it is just one of those social rules that should be followed without question. A simple act of kindness

eta --it really is not a big deal. Even the large ones are done quickly with police escorts.

Edited by terbear, 26 May 2011 - 11:32 AM.


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Posted 26 May 2011 - 11:40 AM

ah, this is a hot topic around these parts

i will never ever ever no matter where i am going or how late i will be cross a funeral procession. it's a matter of respect to me.

when my mom died, and we were in a funeral procession it seemed as though the whole world was going on about their day and mine had come to a complete stop, and i thought to myself, how nice of a gesture it was of those people that stopped for us, that they stopped their life for just a few minutes out of respect for us.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 11:54 AM

I wouldn't cross one, or whatever. I respect the custom.

I just disagree with it. I get it, and I abide by it. I just don't think its necessary.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 12:26 PM

I have saw people stop on their bikes as well, and also take off their hats and helmuts. It's about respect, and I'm not 100% on this, but I do believe it's the law. I'd like to think the lady who crossed the line had a personal emergency going on, but in reality it was probably just plain rudeness.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 01:03 PM

i always stop as well
last year sometime they talked about it on the lynn martin show and it was said that actually funeral processions are supposed to follow the traffic laws which means stopping at red lights
its only respectful to stop not the law

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 01:17 PM

I wont go through a line...but I cannot always stop if one is going the other way...I wont speed by it, or try to make haste to get around it...I just cant stop always for them.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 01:21 PM

I am pretty sure it is also a bylaw for Windsor. Can someone check with 311? I'm in Florida right now and can't make the call myself. I know this has been debated before without really getting an answer.


This is the bylaw for Ottawa (only thing I could find on the net)

FUNERAL AND OTHER PROCESSIONS
83. (1) No person shall, except under the direction of a police officer, drive or operate a vehicle on a highway between vehicles comprising a funeral cortege or other procession recognizable as such by the display of pennants or other identifying insignia while the vehicles in such procession are in motion.
(2) No person shall drive a vehicle in a funeral cortege or other procession on a highway except as near to the right-hand edge of the roadway as is practicable and follow the vehicle ahead as close as is practicable and safe.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 01:28 PM

I am the pull over to the side kinda respector.... county always see this done, so driving out there.. dont' go near passing...
I really find that very very rude.... wow... that lady is horrible....

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 01:38 PM

I am pretty sure it is also a bylaw for Windsor. Can someone check with 311? I'm in Florida right now and can't make the call myself. I know this has been debated before without really getting an answer.


This is the bylaw for Ottawa (only thing I could find on the net)

FUNERAL AND OTHER PROCESSIONS
83. (1) No person shall, except under the direction of a police officer, drive or operate a vehicle on a highway between vehicles comprising a funeral cortege or other procession recognizable as such by the display of pennants or other identifying insignia while the vehicles in such procession are in motion.
(2) No person shall drive a vehicle in a funeral cortege or other procession on a highway except as near to the right-hand edge of the roadway as is practicable and follow the vehicle ahead as close as is practicable and safe.



i cant call as i live in the county but checked online and there is none for funerals

http://www.citywindsor.ca/000024.asp

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 02:02 PM

I wouldn't cross one, or whatever. I respect the custom.

I just disagree with it. I get it, and I abide by it. I just don't think its necessary.


yeah this!!I
I dont think what she did was right at all...but when we lived in the county off of howard,processions made me late for work a few times when I had left early to boot.I do think there should be a limit to the amount of cars..and the amount of time traffic can be halted for them...

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 02:06 PM

Growing up in the county we always pull over and stop for them, but I've noticed in the city that it's not done very much. I feel so torn between wanting to stop and holding up traffic. Luckily, I was in oncoming traffic to that procession this morning and wanting to make a left turn, so I was able to stop and wait to turn.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 02:15 PM

I pull over and stop the traffic if it is oncoming to me too. There is no funeral that long that is going to make you late for work, and if it is, you are leaving too late.

My mom's funeral was large and we had police escort, and still it did not hold up traffic that long.

HEll, I have waited longer for a train. LOL

I always stop, someday you will realize how important it is when it is someone so close to you.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 02:25 PM

I wouldn't cross one, or whatever. I respect the custom.

I just disagree with it. I get it, and I abide by it. I just don't think its necessary.


Totally agree! What that woman did wasn't right but you don't know what was going on in her life! There is always another side of a story although that said probably nothing was really going on but her impatience!

someday you will realize how important it is when it is someone so close to you.


I have been there (my mother passed over 30 years ago!) and still don't agree with it! I do it but
don't see the real need!

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 02:36 PM

First of all I had my fiancee die,and not at one moment during the whole funeral thing did I care who stopped or not for his hearse..we opted to not do a procession as he was cremated.In Toronto,I dont believe there are bylaws,but you also dont get people stopping in a huge city.
The act of stopping for a procession seems to be more for those not affected,than those grieving...who are too busy to care.
I also left work exactly one hour early everyday..its an anal habit of mine to not be late,and once we were held up on howard for 25 min...which isnt acceptable...in fact proberts funeral was shorter than whomever died that day.I am all for processions,and giving them respect,but there MUST be a limit...the world still goes on when our loved ones die.Its amazing all the people in windsor who stop for the dead,but keep on driving past my kids school bus each day when the lights are flashing....

Edited by Hunnybunches, 26 May 2011 - 02:38 PM.


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Posted 26 May 2011 - 02:40 PM

Working for a funeral home I can't tell you how many time people have cut us off. Last week I drove leading the procession and was making a left hand turn from Cabana on to Provincial and a car from the opposite direction cut off our hearse and limo and just about caused an accident it is disrespectful to drive through a funeral procession no matter what the circumstances. I guess some people can't understand until it happens to them. There is no way to limit the length of cars in a procession, because who are we to tell people if they can or can not come, kwim? I don't believe its the law here, just respectful.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 03:23 PM

I was in a funeral procession that had this happen and resulted in a 5 car accident. It was an absolute mess and all because some man was running late for work and tried to run through the intersection we were crossing. Very, very, very rude!!!

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 04:44 PM

First of all I had my fiancee die,and not at one moment during the whole funeral thing did I care who stopped or not for his hearse..we opted to not do a procession as he was cremated.In Toronto,I dont believe there are bylaws,but you also dont get people stopping in a huge city.
The act of stopping for a procession seems to be more for those not affected,than those grieving...who are too busy to care.
I also left work exactly one hour early everyday..its an anal habit of mine to not be late,and once we were held up on howard for 25 min...which isnt acceptable...in fact proberts funeral was shorter than whomever died that day.I am all for processions,and giving them respect,but there MUST be a limit...the world still goes on when our loved ones die.Its amazing all the people in windsor who stop for the dead,but keep on driving past my kids school bus each day when the lights are flashing....



I definitely agree with a limit as to how many cars.

I don't think it's fair to say that when someone close to us dies, then we will agree with you. Obviously, that's not the case with Jag and Hunny. I was in the procession for an 8yo little girl who died last year. And yes, it was touching, seeing all the cars in the procession, but it was still excessive.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 05:37 PM

Doesn't bother me one bit to wait.. I definitely feel it's about respect.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 05:46 PM

I think as well we all grieve differently,or have a different take on what should comprise our levels of grieving,and the process we take.I certainly understand how hard it is to say goodbye.You don't want the process to be over,and yes,the response you get from others towards your loved one does bolster you up.
I do though like the way muslims, jews,and other religions treat passing better that our christian ways...they bury within 24-48 hours.No embalming,shroud is the only thing that's worn..no open casket,and the funeral is brief,although the grieving process after is much longer than christians...and focuses on the family spending time together.
Yes there are processions in every religion.
I say if it feels good to you to pull aside,or stop...go ahead.I don't drive,but generally its something Ive done with whomever is driving.But sometimes,there are things that are more pressing than others grief.Sounds evil,but is it really?i mean what if that person who drove in front of the procession had a child to pick up,or was late for an appointment with the heart surgeon...the list goes on.I like the idea of seeing both sides to the coin.I mean if your driving cause an accident,or could cause someone to get hurt...well then you're an ass no matter whats happening.But what if its someone who chooses to pay their respects their own way....certainly one could argue that automatically pulling aside is perfunctory at best if there's no true feeling,or intention behind it.Don't just "do " things because others expect it.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 06:58 PM

Doesn't bother me to stop for a few minutes to let a procession go by. I try to use it as a time to reflect and remember that this is what it's all about in the grand scheme of things. Life and death. And what happens in between. I also imagine how amazing the person who passed must have been if they have so many people there to honour them in their death. We can all only hope to have long processions that reflect how much of an impact we've had on other people's lives.

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 07:56 PM

I think as well we all grieve differently,or have a different take on what should comprise our levels of grieving,and the process we take.I certainly understand how hard it is to say goodbye.You don't want the process to be over,and yes,the response you get from others towards your loved one does bolster you up.
I do though like the way muslims, jews,and other religions treat passing better that our christian ways...they bury within 24-48 hours.No embalming,shroud is the only thing that's worn..no open casket,and the funeral is brief,although the grieving process after is much longer than christians...and focuses on the family spending time together.
Yes there are processions in every religion.
I say if it feels good to you to pull aside,or stop...go ahead.I don't drive,but generally its something Ive done with whomever is driving.But sometimes,there are things that are more pressing than others grief.Sounds evil,but is it really?i mean what if that person who drove in front of the procession had a child to pick up,or was late for an appointment with the heart surgeon...the list goes on.I like the idea of seeing both sides to the coin.I mean if your driving cause an accident,or could cause someone to get hurt...well then you're an ass no matter whats happening.But what if its someone who chooses to pay their respects their own way....certainly one could argue that automatically pulling aside is perfunctory at best if there's no true feeling,or intention behind it.Don't just "do " things because others expect it.

Well said! You are so good with words!

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 08:50 PM

This is totally off note, but i belong to another forum, where very much like facebook there is a like button ( or thanks on that site) I would of probably thanked quite a few posts in this thread. An idea for the future?

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Posted 26 May 2011 - 08:52 PM

Doesn't bother me to stop for a few minutes to let a procession go by. I try to use it as a time to reflect and remember that this is what it's all about in the grand scheme of things. Life and death. And what happens in between. I also imagine how amazing the person who passed must have been if they have so many people there to honour them in their death. We can all only hope to have long processions that reflect how much of an impact we've had on other people's lives.


What if i was a quite, but amazing person. If i don't know many people and i don't have a long procession. Not refering to me, just a general statement lol.

Edited by Jenn1980, 26 May 2011 - 08:52 PM.


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Posted 26 May 2011 - 09:39 PM

Doesn't bother me to stop for a few minutes to let a procession go by. I try to use it as a time to reflect and remember that this is what it's all about in the grand scheme of things. Life and death. And what happens in between. I also imagine how amazing the person who passed must have been if they have so many people there to honour them in their death. We can all only hope to have long processions that reflect how much of an impact we've had on other people's lives.



You're awesome!!! Well said. I agree completely (as usual!)

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 07:12 AM


Doesn't bother me to stop for a few minutes to let a procession go by. I try to use it as a time to reflect and remember that this is what it's all about in the grand scheme of things. Life and death. And what happens in between. I also imagine how amazing the person who passed must have been if they have so many people there to honour them in their death. We can all only hope to have long processions that reflect how much of an impact we've had on other people's lives.



You're awesome!!! Well said. I agree completely (as usual!)


yep as usual!! I agree too

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 08:26 AM


Doesn't bother me to stop for a few minutes to let a procession go by. I try to use it as a time to reflect and remember that this is what it's all about in the grand scheme of things. Life and death. And what happens in between. I also imagine how amazing the person who passed must have been if they have so many people there to honour them in their death. We can all only hope to have long processions that reflect how much of an impact we've had on other people's lives.


What if i was a quite, but amazing person. If i don't know many people and i don't have a long procession. Not refering to me, just a general statement lol.



excellent point.kind of reminds me how some people measure others worth by the people around them...sometimes the most amazing people require the least amount of pomp and circumstance,and those that die with 800 cars in their processions could be pedophiles.Id rather use that extra time to get to work and be productive,and help others...just saying

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Posted 27 May 2011 - 08:41 AM

Doesn't bother me to stop for a few minutes to let a procession go by. I try to use it as a time to reflect and remember that this is what it's all about in the grand scheme of things. Life and death. And what happens in between. I also imagine how amazing the person who passed must have been if they have so many people there to honour them in their death. We can all only hope to have long processions that reflect how much of an impact we've had on other people's lives.


Excellent post!!! ITA!